[Debian-on-mobile-maintainers] Forking on MMSD

[Guido Günther]

Hi Chris,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 07:30:51AM -0400, Christopher Talbot wrote:
> Hello Guido,
> 
> On Thu, 2021-04-15 at 11:10 +0200, Guido Günther wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Chris Talbot wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2021-04-14 at 20:30 +0200, Guido Günther wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 02:21:04PM -0400, Chris Talbot wrote:
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > 
> > > > > In talking to the Debian Developer Mr. Federico Ceratto, since
> > > > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > been unable to get a hold of the Ofono Maintainers, the best
> > > > > course
> > > > > of
> > > > > action for packaging mmsd into Debian is to simply fork the
> > > > > project
> > > > > and
> > > > > submit my version upstream for packaging in Debian. My
> > > > > repository
> > > > > is
> > > > > here: https://source.puri.sm/kop316/mmsd/
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am sending this so the relavent parties are aware of this,
> > > > > and to
> > > > > indicate that I no longer intend on trying to get a hold of
> > > > > upstream
> > > > > mmsd to try and submit patches.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For the Purism Employees, I am additionally asking for
> > > > > permission
> > > > > to
> > > > > keep hosting mmsd on https://source.puri.sm/ . I have been
> > > > > extremely
> > > > > appreciative in using it and I am happy to keep it there, but I
> > > > > want to
> > > > > be neighboorly and ask if it is okay for me to keep it there.
> > > > > If it
> > > > > is
> > > > > not, I completely understand and I am fine with moving it to a
> > > > > new
> > > > > host.
> > > > 
> > > > Keeping your ofono version on source.puri.sm is certainly
> > > > welcome!
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >  -- Guido
> > > > 
> > > > > If you have any questions, comments, or concern, please reach
> > > > > out
> > > > > to
> > > > > me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Respectfully,
> > > > > Chris Talbot
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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> > > > > 
> > > Thank you for allowing me to keep hosting it there.
> > 
> > Great. If you really want to maintain a fork i'd consider renaming to
> > make that obvious (e.g. mm-mmsd) to avoid confusion within distros.
> 
> I agree. I am admittedly bad at renaming things, so if you (or anyone
> else on this email distro) have ideas, I am willing to hear it! Right
> now the two I have heard that I like are:
> 
> 1) yammsd
> 2) mmsd-ng (or mmsd-tng -> I am Star Trek fan)
> I am thinking I should wait until the weekend to formally change things
> in my repo, as this email chain shook a lot of trees that I did not
> expect it to. While it would be nice if something came out of this
> email chain, I am highly doubtful it will.

If things work out without a fork that would certainly be the best
outcome. If not i'd change the project name as a start and hold off
renaming code and DBus APIs until it is certain a fork is needed. That
way changes can still be folded back in e.g. a couple of weeks should
mmsd upstream come back to live (or transfer maintainership to you and
other interested parties).

Cheers,
 -- Guido

> 
> > 
> > > Since it is now a fork, I added Mr. Ceratto, Mr. Farraris (a-wai),
> > > and
> > > Mr. Clayton Craft (craftyguy, a pmOS developer) as maintainers. Is
> > > there a wish for a Purism maintainer to be added as well?
> > I think sadiq and devrtz were the ones most involved so far but i
> > think
> > working via MRs is fine since that allows to establish a workflow.
> > 
> 
> That sounds good. Everyone on that list said pretty much the same thing
> you did. My primary concern is if something were to happen to me, it is
> good to have someone else who has access to the repo as well. 
> 
> > Cheers,
> >  -- Guido
> > 
> > 
> > > Respectfully,
> > > Chris Talbot
> > > 
> 
>