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godswearhats freedom at godswearhats.com
Fri Jun 29 20:40:05 UTC 2012

Hey, just joined the list recently.

Looking from the outside in, here are the problems I've seen:

* No clear leadership (I'm here, I want to help, I don't know who to 
ask for work!)
* No clear short-term goals
* No clear way for people to join in

Maybe all these things exist, and I expect some of them do, but it's 
not clear to newbies or outsiders.

I want to help, but don't know if the help I want to give is going to 
piss people off.  What I'd like to see:

* A (short) list of functionality for an MVP
* A lead for each sub-project under that, even if the lead says "TBD", 
and an obvious way to contact the lead
* An issue tracker with some tasks in it, even if those tasks say "it's 
not clear how to do this yet."
* Distinct identity - at the moment, FreedomBox feels like it's owned 
by Debian
* Some milestones

In other open source efforts I've been a part of, there's usually an 
originator who plays the role of benevolent dictator, or a core team 
that does the same. If this project has one or the other of those, it's 
again not clear who they are or how to communicate with them.

If someone can help me understand all these things, then I'd be keen to 
work to make it easier for the rest of the world to understand them too.

On 29.06.2012 12:28, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> On 29 June 2012 21:03, Nick Daly <nick.m.daly at gmail.com [5]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Markus Sabadello
>> <markus.sabadello at gmail.com [1]> wrote:
>> > Hmm :)
>> >
>> > Of course that's not true :)
>> Well, it says something that I woke up, this morning, with this
>> song
>> going through my head, after reading the article yesterday:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFCHuEegsk [2]
>> We're gonna need a montage!
> "This video is not available in your country.
> Sorry about that."
> :)
> But I know the song.
> I dont think the articles says very much.  Seems almost like a hit
> piece. 
> Some thoughts:
> - Freedombox is too good an idea to die, imho
> - As time goes on hardware prices get cheaper.
> - It's true extra developers (even one) can make a big difference
> - Low hanging fruit sees a good idea
> Deciding on a "Minimal Viable Product" seems a good idea.  There
> seems to be lots of diverse opinion on this list, that require
> curation.  I think Nick / Jonas / Daniel / James / Eben are on a good
> track. 
> I always think back to Eben's original speech.  "We need a web
> server, some dyn dns, some PHP web parts, and connectors to your
> social nets".  Something like this in line with WebBox I think could
> be achievable by end of year.
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> Links:
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> [1] mailto:markus.sabadello at gmail.com
> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFCHuEegsk
> [3] mailto:Freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org
> [4]
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