[Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild

[Arnaud Quette]

2009/8/3 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>

>  Looking at the configure output, I though nut-cgi was using X11 and glib
> stuff. I will check.
>
> It looks good other wise. I had to disable hal, powerman and neonxml
> feature to get it wotk.
>
> I still got some with installed but unpackaged file that need some
> modification in the spec file. I will update soon.
>

answer in the next mail...

> Patrick doesn't work anymore on this project but yes indeed we work in the
> same dept. He contributed a bit to nut project some time ago if I remember
> well. So I am continuing part of is job now.
>
un bonjour pour Patrick alors.
please to see someone at Alcatel continuing to use NUT ;-)

Arnaud


>  ------------------------------
> *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com]
> *Envoyé :* lundi 3 août 2009 16:16
>
> *À :* Antoine Gatineau
> *Cc :* nut-upsuser
> *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>
> just to complete a bit Manuel's answer
>
> 2009/8/3 Manuel Wolfshant
>
>> Antoine Gatineau wrote:
>>
>>> Ok,
>>>  Now I am rebuilding an el4 rpm based on el5 src.rpm.
>>>  I will remove the --with-hal option in the configure part. In order a
>>> full featured rpm, I'm trying to keep every option unless hal.
>>> But I am having problems with dependencies. libX11-devel,
>>>
>> xorg-x11-devel
>>
>> libXpm-devel,
>>>
>> still xorg-x11-devel, if I am not mistaken
>>
>> dbus-glib-devel
>>>
>> dbus-devel
>>
>
> you can drop this one since it's for the nut-hal package
> (note that you might need to remove the nut-hal package definitions
> throughout the .spec...)
>
>
>> and powerman-devel
>>>
>> not available, afaik
>> IIRC, I had to compile it for RHEL-5, and in turn it required some other
>> packages (a newer curl, for instance)
>> I suggest to drop its usage
>>
>
> yup, this part is for the powerman (external PDU) support.
> just in case you want it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/powerman/files/
>
> btw, are you working with Patrick Agrain?
>
> Arnaud
> --
> Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
> Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
> Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
> Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
>
>
>>
>>  do not exist in RHEL 4... These are for RHEL5.
>>>  Does anyone know the equivalent dependencies for RHEL4?
>>> Another possibility is to disable the option that requires thoses
>>> dependencies. I didn't find a document explaining that so could you help.
>>> By disabling the troublemaker options, I can build a package for my
>>> particuliar configuration. Of course it will not help others...
>>>  I put the RHEL5 spec file in attachement also.
>>>  Merci,
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com]
>>> *Envoyé :* lundi 3 août 2009 11:09
>>> *À :* Antoine Gatineau
>>> *Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser
>>> *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>>
>>> salut Antoine
>>>
>>> 2009/8/3 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com <mailto:
>>> antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Thanks for the info.
>>>        I use the first approach.
>>>    So, if I understood well, the nut-hal support (ie, the --with-hal)
>>>    is used only for the 2nd approach. Udev rules are dealt when using
>>>    --with-usb.
>>>    Is that correct?
>>>
>>>
>>> mostly! the udev rules are used in both cases...
>>>
>>>    If so, I might be able to rebuild the nut-2.4.1 pachage for RHEL4.
>>>    For packaging help (I think I might need some for the next stage
>>>    ;-) ) do I continue this thread or use the nut-packaging list (or
>>>    both).
>>>
>>>
>>> no, continue using the present thread.
>>> nut-packaging is not really active, and I've created it originally as a
>>> placeholder for packagers discussions (related to the NUT Packaging Standard
>>> - NPS - topic)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Arnaud
>>> --
>>> Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
>>> Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
>>> Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
>>> Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>    *De :* Arnaud Quette [mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:aquette.dev at gmail.com>]
>>>    *Envoyé :* vendredi 31 juillet 2009 21:41
>>>    *À :* Antoine Gatineau
>>>    *Cc :* Charles Lepple; nut-upsuser
>>>
>>>    *Objet :* Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>>
>>>    salut Antoine,
>>>
>>>    2009/7/31 Antoine Gatineau <antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com
>>>    <mailto:antoine.gatineau at alcatel-lucent.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        I might ask a stupid question but isn't hal used to manage the
>>>        UPS device
>>>        and connection through udev rules?
>>>        I though that hal was mostly usefull with usb...
>>>
>>>        In the nut-hal document, it is said that HAL "allows NUT
>>>        drivers to feed the
>>>        HAL system, which will itself feeds
>>>        applications such as the Gnome Power Manager"
>>>        Does that mean hal is not used for managing the battery itself
>>>        but sees the
>>>        nut driver as a "pseudo real  battery"? In this case, indeed,
>>>        I do not need
>>>        it.
>>>        I use upsmon for power management.
>>>
>>>
>>>    not at all. there are 2 approaches:
>>>    - the standard one, where you have a driver (usbhid-ups), upsd and
>>>    upsmon.
>>>    udev only applies the device privileges rules.
>>>    - the Integrated Power Management approach, where NUT USB driver
>>>    can feed data to HAL (instead of upsd), replacing the basic
>>>    USB/HID support in HAL.
>>>    Note that HAL is being superseded by DeviceKit and DeviceKit-power.
>>>    This approach will probably be abandonned...
>>>
>>>
>>>        -----Message d'origine-----
>>>        De : Charles Lepple [mailto:clepple at gmail.com
>>>        <mailto:clepple at gmail.com>]
>>>        Envoyé : vendredi 31 juillet 2009 15:08
>>>        À : Antoine Gatineau
>>>        Cc : 'nut-upsuser'
>>>        Objet : Re: [Nut-upsuser] Usbhip-ups going wild
>>>
>>>        On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Antoine Gatineau wrote:
>>>
>>>        > Indeed, nut depends on some packages not the distribution
>>>        itself.
>>>        > You are surely right.
>>>        >
>>>        > Anyway, here are the links :
>>>        > RHEL 4 : ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/EPEL/4ES/SRPMS/
>>>        > nut-2.2.0-4.el4.src.rpm
>>>        > RHEL 5 : nut-2.4.1 found only on this one
>>>        > http://wolfy.fedorapeople.org/nut/SRPM/
>>>
>>>
>>>    use that one.
>>>    install it and edit the spec.
>>>    modifying --with-all by --with-usb should be sufficient.
>>>
>>>    cheers,
>>>    Arnaud
>>>    --    Linux / Unix Expert R&D - Eaton - http://www.eaton.com/mgeops
>>>    Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader -
>>>    http://www.networkupstools.org/
>>>    Debian Developer - http://www.debian.org
>>>    Free Software Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
>>>
>>>
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