[sane-devel] Question about Distributing via Flatpak

Ulf Zibis Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de
Mon Dec 2 12:33:00 GMT 2019


Hi Phil,

yes, distros are often slow in publishing recent changes of a software,
but with PPA-sources and manually installable DEB/RPM-packages we have
the same advantage regarding actuality as with flatpak, but with much
less footprint.

-Ulf

Am 02.12.19 um 08:19 schrieb Wismerhill:
> Hi Ulf,
>
> on your example for Delta.Chat i´m with you, on such a scenario i also
> would choose the RPM.
> But with SANE it´s a bit different, because SANE repressents the
> Drivers for Hardware, meaning no Driver no functonality....
> (and i can´t switch to an other Software, because there´s no other
> option .... kind of Monopol and that changes the view a bit).
> For me, as an end-user for example it is fully acceptable to loose 1 or
> 2 Gig for the ability to use my scanner complete without trouble.
> I don´t want to change 2 Gig more space for "no Scanner" and time
> consuming analysis.
> I see your Point of anger against the hardware sellers, using you to do
> their Job, but i think in because of the special "Status" of SANE as
> the only possibility out there (because your doing a great Job!),
> Flatpak could be a possibility to serve with newest Driver, and make
> Linux more attractive to compete against Windows).
> How often you have to Deal with Problems resulting only on Different
> Versioning and Changes from Distros, how often you had to tell someone
> "sorry we all ready fixed it, just wait until your Distro makes it
> available" ... conisder that all of this would dissaper ... just the
> Focus on the latest base, or trouble by changes of Distromaintainers.
> The possibility to easy rollback to an older Version as Fallback is
> also a scenario i could imagine as helpfull.
>
> Phil :-)
>
>
>
> Am Sonntag, den 01.12.2019, 17:49 +0100 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>> Am 01.12.19 um 15:39 schrieb Wismerhill:
>>> So I looked if a Flattpak is available to avoid to handle with the
>>> compiling Stuff.
>>> I wan´t to ask you if it´s possible to provide Sane via Flatpak
>>> over
>>> Flathub. It would be a great benefit also to the Distros as to the
>>> Users.
>> I don't see much benefit for the users, only for hardware sellers. If
>> flatpak would become common, than we will have the same situation as
>> on Windows, needing immense memory and CPU resources over the time.
>> The packaging system served by a central repository is one of the big
>> advantages of Linux distros over Windows.
>> As an example see the flatpak for Delta.Chat, it needs over 1 GB to
>> install whereas the DEB-package has only 73 MB.
>> -Ulf



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