[sane-devel] Question about Distributing via Flatpak

[Ulf Zibis]

Additionally flatpak and snap distributions have a big risk to
infiltrate your system with security leaks or malware, as nobody is able
to check the amount of 1 GB of software for critical changes in
comparison against the "official" libraries.

Am 02.12.19 um 13:33 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
> Hi Phil,
>
> yes, distros are often slow in publishing recent changes of a software,
> but with PPA-sources and manually installable DEB/RPM-packages we have
> the same advantage regarding actuality as with flatpak, but with much
> less footprint.
>
> -Ulf
>
> Am 02.12.19 um 08:19 schrieb Wismerhill:
>> Hi Ulf,
>>
>> on your example for Delta.Chat i´m with you, on such a scenario i also
>> would choose the RPM.
>> But with SANE it´s a bit different, because SANE repressents the
>> Drivers for Hardware, meaning no Driver no functonality....
>> (and i can´t switch to an other Software, because there´s no other
>> option .... kind of Monopol and that changes the view a bit).
>> For me, as an end-user for example it is fully acceptable to loose 1 or
>> 2 Gig for the ability to use my scanner complete without trouble.
>> I don´t want to change 2 Gig more space for "no Scanner" and time
>> consuming analysis.
>> I see your Point of anger against the hardware sellers, using you to do
>> their Job, but i think in because of the special "Status" of SANE as
>> the only possibility out there (because your doing a great Job!),
>> Flatpak could be a possibility to serve with newest Driver, and make
>> Linux more attractive to compete against Windows).
>> How often you have to Deal with Problems resulting only on Different
>> Versioning and Changes from Distros, how often you had to tell someone
>> "sorry we all ready fixed it, just wait until your Distro makes it
>> available" ... conisder that all of this would dissaper ... just the
>> Focus on the latest base, or trouble by changes of Distromaintainers.
>> The possibility to easy rollback to an older Version as Fallback is
>> also a scenario i could imagine as helpfull.
>>
>> Phil :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Sonntag, den 01.12.2019, 17:49 +0100 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>>> Am 01.12.19 um 15:39 schrieb Wismerhill:
>>>> So I looked if a Flattpak is available to avoid to handle with the
>>>> compiling Stuff.
>>>> I wan´t to ask you if it´s possible to provide Sane via Flatpak
>>>> over
>>>> Flathub. It would be a great benefit also to the Distros as to the
>>>> Users.
>>> I don't see much benefit for the users, only for hardware sellers. If
>>> flatpak would become common, than we will have the same situation as
>>> on Windows, needing immense memory and CPU resources over the time.
>>> The packaging system served by a central repository is one of the big
>>> advantages of Linux distros over Windows.
>>> As an example see the flatpak for Delta.Chat, it needs over 1 GB to
>>> install whereas the DEB-package has only 73 MB.
>>> -Ulf
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