[sane-devel] Question about Distributing via Flatpak

[Wismerhill]

Hi Ulf, 

yes i agree with you, but as OpenSuse User i can´t use PPA, as Gentoo
Arch, Slack, Fedora also can´t.
Ok, i can try out Alien and keep fingers crossed, but that is just a
kind of workaround and no clean solution, for all Linuxer. 
In my case all official repos containing the same Version (1.0.27) even
Tumbleweed.
The 1.0.28 which i want to install is only available from Test Repos
from community members, i didn´t know much about.... 
That is a big risk to infiltrate my system with security leaks or
malware, as i am not able to check the guy out there if he is a good or
bad one or if he know what he does. So a download from you is much less
risk (is a compliment, i trust your work!) compared to that other
scenario. 

... can you create a Repositorie with RPMs for us the RPM users then?
and maybe also for the Arch and Gentoo People, ... Slack .... did i got
them all....

Flatpack would be able to reach them all right away....

Is it a big amount of work to test it out? I´m a bit out of the scene
for the last 15 Years (when i learned programming there where line
numbers :-)) and 2004 was the last time programming in a
proprietary ugly language for Frauenhofer Institut.      

I for example didn´t need every week a update  all 4 Weeks, even 3
month would be ok, and is better to wait for example a year - or one
and a half year till a new distro version brings an upgrade, which is
outdated by then.

Phil :-) 


Am Montag, den 02.12.2019, 13:33 +0100 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
> Hi Phil,
> 
> yes, distros are often slow in publishing recent changes of a
> software,
> but with PPA-sources and manually installable DEB/RPM-packages we
> have
> the same advantage regarding actuality as with flatpak, but with much
> less footprint.
> 
> -Ulf
> 
> Am 02.12.19 um 08:19 schrieb Wismerhill:
> > Hi Ulf,
> > 
> > on your example for Delta.Chat i´m with you, on such a scenario i
> > also
> > would choose the RPM.
> > But with SANE it´s a bit different, because SANE repressents the
> > Drivers for Hardware, meaning no Driver no functonality....
> > (and i can´t switch to an other Software, because there´s no other
> > option .... kind of Monopol and that changes the view a bit).
> > For me, as an end-user for example it is fully acceptable to loose
> > 1 or
> > 2 Gig for the ability to use my scanner complete without trouble.
> > I don´t want to change 2 Gig more space for "no Scanner" and time
> > consuming analysis.
> > I see your Point of anger against the hardware sellers, using you
> > to do
> > their Job, but i think in because of the special "Status" of SANE
> > as
> > the only possibility out there (because your doing a great Job!),
> > Flatpak could be a possibility to serve with newest Driver, and
> > make
> > Linux more attractive to compete against Windows).
> > How often you have to Deal with Problems resulting only on
> > Different
> > Versioning and Changes from Distros, how often you had to tell
> > someone
> > "sorry we all ready fixed it, just wait until your Distro makes it
> > available" ... conisder that all of this would dissaper ... just
> > the
> > Focus on the latest base, or trouble by changes of
> > Distromaintainers.
> > The possibility to easy rollback to an older Version as Fallback is
> > also a scenario i could imagine as helpfull.
> > 
> > Phil :-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Am Sonntag, den 01.12.2019, 17:49 +0100 schrieb Ulf Zibis:
> > > Am 01.12.19 um 15:39 schrieb Wismerhill:
> > > > So I looked if a Flattpak is available to avoid to handle with
> > > > the
> > > > compiling Stuff.
> > > > I wan´t to ask you if it´s possible to provide Sane via Flatpak
> > > > over
> > > > Flathub. It would be a great benefit also to the Distros as to
> > > > the
> > > > Users.
> > > 
> > > I don't see much benefit for the users, only for hardware
> > > sellers. If
> > > flatpak would become common, than we will have the same situation
> > > as
> > > on Windows, needing immense memory and CPU resources over the
> > > time.
> > > The packaging system served by a central repository is one of the
> > > big
> > > advantages of Linux distros over Windows.
> > > As an example see the flatpak for Delta.Chat, it needs over 1 GB
> > > to
> > > install whereas the DEB-package has only 73 MB.
> > > -Ulf
> 
>